True that I think that it was mostly because of Soliman’s akward style. I mean Winky is well schooled southpaw that can cause all kinds of problems to not so experienced Taylor. Besides remeber the Trinidad fight ::**
Im going to tell you people something that might suprise you. The reason 90 percent of boxers come out of retirement is because they want more money. Thats exactly what Trinidad did. If you will watch the fight over again, look into the later rounds in trinidads corner. His papa was telling him everything was alright and that he was winning. If he thought he was winning, I would hate to see him when he was losing. Trinidad had no defense and hardly threw a punch, yet people still use that as one of winkys notable victories, which is pathetic. Taylor would have dropped him in three. Winkys finally fixing to face someone with the eye of the tiger!
I think Taylor is going to be to big and powerful for Winky to handle. Taylor by UD, I think that Taylor is not going to be bothered by Winky’s shots and Taylor is going to wear him down, take control in the middle rounds on.
i disagree. IMO winky will school taylor with his jab (one of the best jabs there is at the moment). Do you really think taylor is that big and powerful? I have to disagree again im afraid mate ;D Although i do feel that if taylor can work hard and get inside then winkys chin is very questionable. IMO though i cant see him getting past winkys defence
Jermain is the first true middleweight that Winky is stepping in with!
Now Wright is a tough guy but Mosley shook him and that was the Shane with no power, Jermain has a ton of power and a good jab…great combos and good counter punching will help him win.
Jermain Taylor is a tough guy he beat Bernard FRIGGIN Hopkins…Wright hasn’t done anything to that extent…but he’s a tough boxer it’ll be close but Taylor’s size and athletism lead him to victory.
soliman’s style is almost impossible to look good against…and he’s also a good/very good fighter…possibly capable of getting a lower tier title…WBU IBA ect… and Winky beat him… just as he will beat Taylor… wtite it down in stone… or I’m going to be eating some crow…I don’t like crow… go WINKY!!
:coolclick: Have to agree with everything you said Lyle. Taylor is physically the largest fighter Winky will have ever faced. Mosely and Trinidad both started out at Jr WW and moved up in weight. Taylor is a true Middle, and big Middle at that. Winky does not have the power to bother Taylor, Winky will have to do a lot of running in the fight. He wont be able to stay in front of Taylor.
I just dont see Jt having the eye of the tiger, if he did he would have showed it in the B-hop fights and I am sure most of us agree here that he lost those fight and was given them as gifts because we will no longer have Osca de laholla and Boxing needs a new face. So I dont think he will win , but he might be given another gift.
I thought they were both close fights that could have gone either way. Besides nobody looks good against B-hop. To me in both fights B-hop didnt do enough to say he clearly won and Taylor was trying to be a tactical fighter against Hopkins which is not his way of fighting. So he looked bad against him. Now Taylor is in with another tough fighter, but I think that Winky presents more of opportunity for Taylor to put together a good fight. I am not saying he is going to look fabulous against Winky but he will look better and win.
i thought this would be interesting to settle the score about who is the bigger man.
what i did was find the tale of the tapes of both winky and jermaines most recent fights. Winky’s however i could only find the one with trinidad.
Jermaines is up to date however. As you can see Jermain on paper is in fact bigger.
I see a close match, Jermain will be the agressor,Winky will be forced to open up a bit more, i can see Jermain winning a controversial Sd, or winky winning by UD if Taylor’s strategy to win does not work out.
Jermaine: Hopkins Taylor II
Record 24-0
Knockouts 17
Age 27
Weight 159
Height 6-foot-1
Reach 78
Chest (normal) 44
Chest (expanded) 46
Biceps 16 1/2
Forearms 14
Waist 31
Thigh 28
Calf 12
Neck 17
Wrist 7
Fist 13
And if you want to compare winky’s size to hopkins…
Hopkins-Taylor II Tale of the Tape
Hopkins
Record
46-3-1
Knockouts 32
Age 40
Weight 160
Height 6-foot-2
Reach 75
Chest (normal) 39 1/2
Chest (expanded) 42 1/2
Biceps 13
Forearms 11
Waist 31
Thigh 21
Calf 14
Neck 17
Wrist 6
Fist 12
Now as you can see…from this info Jermain is bigger then both winky and hopkins. BUT winky is bigger then hopkins is. Now if Jermain couldn’t impose his size on hopkins (although he is a very slick boxer with considerably more movement then winky) how is he gonna do this on wright?
my best guess would be that Jermains camp is betting on Winky not being as slick (via movement) compared to hopkins. They want Jermain to be very agressive/smart with his punching. If i were Jermaine I would focus on straightening that jab and focusing on stamina.
If i were winky i would get prepared to actually open up a bit, and outbox the less experienced Taylor.
I think the fight will go to the most versatile fighter and that is Taylor. That shield defense is a very good defense for Winky (not many other fighters will benefit from it) and I believe that Taylor will adapt to that style and pick Winky apart. And once Taylor adapts to Winky’s style it is over for him unless Winky changes up his style and I don’t see that happening.
Besides versatility the fight will go to who ever can establish the jab,get in good body shots, and throw combination.
Winky is getting KTFO. Taylor’s jab is lethal and it will keep Winky at bay. Winky’s defense is great, but I can easily see Taylor taking a few rounds to figure Winky out and then proceeding to bully him around the ring all night and punish him against the ropes. Taylor is no Trinidad, Taylor is a very good technical boxer and he will find a way to pick Winky apart and break down Winky’s defense. And Taylor is a legit 160 and probably should be at 168, Winky hasn’t ever felt that power.
Why’s everyone think Winky looked bad against Soliman ??? Soliman threw 1000 punches and landed about 120 of them, thats an average of 10 punches landed per 100 thrown a round. Not even Mayweather could pull off numbers like that.