Gatti-Stats wise… average but you all know he belongs there and if not… F.U.
RJJ-F*** the critics
B-HOP- The Fin man in every way, shape and form… a classic gentelman/warrior!!!
PAC-MAN- I know everyone will say he hasn’t done enough … Or that he’s not a legend killer…
or that… F them. Show me the answer to him. exactly, there is none
ODLH- If not for his marketability alone. ODLH vs. PBF, f***in right, doggie!!!
Ronald "Winkey"Wright-Keep those gloves up, champ and you’ll B one… hehehe!!
Hatton- As an American I have only seen a few fights and I dont really put any stock in the callazo
fight… I think, givin he keeps his weight in check, he will surly be there some day.
PBF-He’ll be there…whatever… take a real fight and not
the fights u know u can win… gatti, michel, ect… Juda was a test- and u passed. but not s tough one.
show me…show me. Be Jermain Taylor. Beat the men to be the man,
J.T.- Has my respect to the N’th degree. he is the man. He heat the man. Just want him to once due it convincingly… As much as i think that, I think he is the future champ of the div. reguardles and wil be in the HOF reguardless
Gatti-Stats wise… average but you all know he belongs there and if not… F.U.
RJJ-F*** the critics
B-HOP- The Fin man in every way, shape and form… a classic gentelman/warrior!!!
PAC-MAN- I know everyone will say he hasn’t done enough … Or that he’s not a legend killer…
or that… F them. Show me the answer to him. exactly, there is none
ODLH- If not for his marketability alone. ODLH vs. PBF, f***in right, doggie!!!
Ronald "Winkey"Wright-Keep those gloves up, champ and you’ll B one… hehehe!!
Hatton- As an American I have only seen a few fights and I dont really put any stock in the callazo
fight… I think, givin he keeps his weight in check, he will surly be there some day.
PBF-He’ll be there…whatever… take a real fight and not
the fights u know u can win… gatti, michel, ect… Juda was a test- and u passed. but not s tough one.
show me…show me. Be Jermain Taylor. Beat the men to be the man,
J.T.- Has my respect to the N’th degree. he is the man. He heat the man. Just want him to once due it convincingly… As much as i think that, I think he is the future champ of the div. reguardles and wil be in the HOF reguardless
Wacko… Would love to see yours…
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So much wrong in this post. Were to start? The thread title says “who are Hall of Famers right now”. Not who will be some day. So how can you include Hatton and Taylor? Both have a long way to go. While I think Taylor has a slight chance to one day make it, Hatton has almost no chance. I don’t care how exciting a fighter Gatti was. He ain’t no Hall of Famer. Hall of Famers don’t lose to Angel Manfredy, Ivan Robinson and Mickey Ward. You said he’s in “stats wise”. What stats get him in? How many stitches he’s had in his career? I’m surprised you didn’t include Peter Manfredo in your list. And why the fuck are Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Kostya Tszyu, Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barerra not on your list?
You still following me? It seems like every thread I post in, you follow with your lame comments. You pretty good at this stalking shit. You must be use to it. You even better than that girl with mental problems who use to stalk back when I was in high school. Wait a minute. Sonia is that you?
See how a forum works is I veiw threads based off their titles and then reply to what I see in them. I wouldn’t flatter your self too much… I think you’re super cool and everything but you don’t really affect my posting habits.
That’s a tuffy because a few of mine still have some things to iron out…but here’s how I would see it.
1: Bernard Hopkins (He’s a shoe in for defences)
2: Marco Antonio Barrera (He’s a shoe in on his run)
3: Floyd Mayweather jr. (A few more big names & Floyd could retire as one of the best of my generation)
4: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (He’s a shoe in on record alone)
5: Ronald Winky Wright (Don’t hate on Winky just because you don’t like him)
6: Manny Pacquiao (Based on who he’s beaten)
7: Joe Calzaghe (Based on his defences at 168)
8: James Toney (I hate the man & his steroid issue…but he’s had a brilliant career)
9: Oscar De La Hoya (Great for the sport & has generated much cash & notoriety)
10: Mike Tyson (I hate the man & he’s a freak…but who can forget him or his career?)
I could keep going on…but that’s my 10…not sure what order I’d list them in either…other than Hopkins on top. Erik Morales is an honorable mention…but I just don’t know for sure, there…& believe you me…that’s tuff…because I am a huge Morales fan.
You think i’m “Super cool”? Damn Sonia, it is you. When they let you out the looney bin? And more importantly are you still taking your medication? Remember those little white pills are your friend. They help you put your mind back together. Just like a puzzle. And you like puzzles, don’t you?
Off the top of my head in no particular order the guys who IMO would go if they quit today....
Oscar De la Hoya,Bernard Hopkins,Gatti,Mosley,Castillo,Jones,Toney,Barerra,Morales,Wright,Larios,Sanchez,Byrd,Virgil Hill,Arce..to name a few all have had several or a seccussful reign and proved their worht to the sport
I agree way more with this list than the first one. But I think Mosely has to get at least an honorable mention too. And Wacko, where the fuck is Roy Jones? He’s as much a shoe-in as your top 2, for sure. I think Holyfield probably gets in too. Potentially Lennox Lewis (if we’re talking about fighters who haven’t been up for nomination yet, as opposed to active fighters).
As I said…I could keep going on…that’s just my 10 if I were to go to 15 or 20…here’s what we’d look like:
1: Bernard Hopkins (He’s a shoe in for defences)
2: Marco Antonio Barrera (He’s a shoe in on his run)
3: Floyd Mayweather jr. (A few more big names & Floyd could retire as one of the best of my generation)
4: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (He’s a shoe in on record alone)
5: Ronald Winky Wright (Don’t hate on Winky just because you don’t like him)
6: Manny Pacquiao (Based on who he’s beaten)
7: Joe Calzaghe (Based on his defences at 168)
8: James Toney (I hate the man & his steroid issue…but he’s had a brilliant career)
9: Oscar De La Hoya (Great for the sport & has generated much cash & notoriety)
10: Mike Tyson (I hate the man & he’s a freak…but who can forget him or his career?)
11: Erik Morales (Another fighter on record alone)
12: Roy Jones Jr (Brilliant career that was scrutinized by all)
13: Jorge Arce (Gutty, gritty, & good for boxing)
14: Ricky Hatton (Has been good for the sport & if he could have a few more big namers & remain undefeated…what a record)
15: Carlos Manuel Baldomir (I almost hate to mention him…but if he were to beat Floyd & pull out a few more big wins over legit names…his story & his record of 58 fights, 43 wins with 13 ko’s, 9 losses, & 6 draws might get more interesting)
16: Lennox Lewis (Lewis beat some of the biggest names & best of our time…nuff said!)
I love watching Arce (and really want an Arce-Darchynian fight), but has he really done much in terms of competition yet? And if Hatton’s there, doesn’t Kostya–the only A-fighter he beat and the reason for his rating–have to be there too? I mean, these guys are good, but I just don’t see Arce, Hatton–or especially Baldomir–in there above Holyfield or Trinidad. As of now. Maybe five years down the line if they step it up.
Again…like I said…that list aint in order…& currently those are the fighters that I would think should be on the list…my list atleast.
For some reason…Kostya has never really impressed me all that much.
I guess that it depends on your standards of who should be on these kinds of list. When I heard that they were talking about inducting Gatti…I almost puked. I think that it also goes for those that sell boxing & do it for fans also. Know what I mean?
Only one or two people have mentioned Felix Trinidad, everybody else left him out, that is a shock to me considering he was probably the most exciting fighter in the sport from 99-01. His legacy is in tact and if not for an undersized stay at 160 nobody would have beat him.
Wasn’t Kostya champ for 10 years and wasn’t he one of the first to unify the titles in a long time? Like every belt? I would have,from this generation:
In no particular order
Hopkins
RJJ
MAB
EM
Pacman
Oscar
Winky
Shane
Calzaghe
Pongsaklek
Floyd
Tito
James Toney
Tszyu
That’s all I can think of for now but I also believe that Joge Arce is only a few big fights away and I believe in a few years time,Cotto will be there too.Hatton too and I was no unsure over wether to include Castillo and Corrales?
