"IRON MIKE TYSON"

Mike Tyson Talks of Retiring
By Mitch Abramson (December 27, 2004)

Mike Tyson was at Gleason’s Gym in Brooklyn a few weeks ago, not to train, but to complete community service stemming from a fight he was involved in last year. Looking fleshy and relaxed, Tyson slipped on a pair of training mitts and offered a group of kids a short lesson in throwing and ducking punches, something his career has taken plenty of recently.

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After he satisfied his last autograph seeker, of which there were hundreds, Tyson sat down for an impromptu press conference and confirmed his loyalists’ worse fears, rattling off a grocery list of Tysonisms that showed he was in top form, not physically but mentally: He admitted to snubbing his therapy sessions to rehab his recently operated knee, which he tore in a knockout loss to Danny Williams on July 30.

“I haven’t been to therapy in more than a few months,” he said.

Although he is cautiously scheduled to fight in March, Tyson shot down that rumor by confessing, in a statement that would be startling coming from anyone else that he may never fight again.

”I’ve reached a point in my life where I’m saying to myself, ‘what’s all of this stuff for?’” he said. “I don’t want to do it.”

Warming to the subject, when a reporter asked him what he might miss of boxing if he left the sport for good, Tyson replied, “nothing,” and used an expletive to show his disdain.

“Sometimes I train and sometimes I don’t,” he went on. “I don’t know what I’m doing. I’m trying to eat.”

His need to pay off his famously incurred debts might drive him back into the ring. He made nearly $400 million during his career, yet filed for bankruptcy last year.

Enormously popular, Tyson has always been a magnet for trouble.

Earlier this year, Tyson pleaded guilty to charges of disorderly conduct from a brawl in a Brooklyn hotel lobby. Gleason’s owner Bruce Silverglade suggested to Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes that part of Tyson’s sentencing is spent teaching kids to box, and Tyson was ordered to complete 100 hours of community service, which he satisfied in Arizona, where he now lives, and at Gleason’s.

This past November, Tyson was arrested when a man accused him of jumping onto the hood of his car in the parking lot of an Arizona nightclub.

It’s this reporter’s opinion that Tyson should never fight again. It’s obvious his love of the sport has been replaced by an indifference and contempt that is astonishing given Tyson’s credentials. Yes, a well-conditioned, healthy Tyson would probably whip some of today’s premier heavyweights, but it’s clear that Tyson is not serious about the sport anymore, a shame since he has more charisma and talent in one of his fingers than practically the whole division.

In his current state, John Ruiz would beat him. With all due respect to Ruiz, what does that tell you?

Tyson still has the tools to be cham again in today heavyweight division, but lack of purpose or direction in tysons life is sweeping that under the rug

Tyson was done when Buster Douglas beat him in 1990…I hate to say it but that was it for him no head movement no combos he’s been ripe for the picking for quite some time…the only thing is he hits hard and that is what he owes his recent wins to…I mean Frans Botha was beating him before Mike caught him

tyson can be champ, the person that say something else :lickish:

And I’m quite sure if the net exsisted ‘fans’ would be explaing how Ali would beat Berbick, then go on to beat Holmes in a rematch. Or how Louis was going to blow apart Marciano, then regain the world title :wink:

A fat mike tyson would kill a good shape Ruiz

My how a year can change things. Tyson has been blown out in his last fight and retired.

i aint taking the mick but the state the heavyweight devision is, Ali will probably come out of retirement and knock em all out.

tyson still can stick in with the top 15. compare his hand speed to anyother heavyweight of today, even though he is washed up, he still has enuff to do the heavyweights today. maybe not the top 5!

did u see the fight vs kevin mcbride?

or danny williams

or lennox for that matter

Excatly, god i hated watching them…I would of loved to see them in there with a Prime Tyson though. ;D

No one had in March 2005 :wink:

:coolclick: Fenster. ;D

Now…on the subject of Tyson…he needs to just do a reality show…seriously…I hate reality television…but I have heard that he was made an offer & then he turned it down…now he’s rethinking the matter.

Honestly…I know a shatload of peeps that would watch it. Myself?

Let’s just say that the most fond memories I have of Tyson are the Lennox Lewis fight. ;D

God I miss Lewis.

OOH harsh, Wackster!!!

I love Tyson, he was a great, great fighter…Its a shame he lost the ability to charm, but the '80’s version was a treat to watch…

If I had the opportunity of seeing an 80’s Tyson in the heavyweight division today or a 90’s Lewis I would choose Tyson just like that :wink:

Tyson was tremendous in his day. Recently watched a program which showed all of his fights and in his prime he was nothing short of devastating with his speed and power. A very explosive fighter who nobody could touch in his day. Just a shame he couldn’t always make the right decisions out of the ring.

This talk of a reality show sounds interesting and would be worth watching.

One thing is for sure that if another young Mike Tyson was offered to the sport of boxing we would take him in a second and he would walk through pretty much all the Heavyweight division has to offer now.

…but devistating vs WHO?

Anyone worth beating!!! Lyle, you are limited when it comes to appreciating fighters objectively!!!

How about some of these chaps…

1985
Mar. 6 – Hector Mercedes, Albany, N.Y., TKO 1
Apr. 10 – Trent Singleton, Albany, N.Y., TKO 1
May 23 – Don Halpern, Albany, N.Y., KO 4
June 20 – Rick Spain, Atlantic City, N.J., KO 1
July 11 – John Alderson, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 2
July 19 – Larry Sims, Poughkeepsie, N.Y., KO 3
Aug. 15 – Lorenzo Canady, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 1
Sept. 5 – Michael Johnson, Atlantic City, N.J., KO 1
Oct. 9 – Donnie Long, Atlantic City, N.J., KO 1
Oct. 25 – Robert Colay, Atlantic City, N.J., KO 1
Nov. 1 – Sterling Benjamin, Latham, N.Y., TKO 1
Nov. 13 – Eddie Richardson, Houston, KO 1
Nov. 22 – Conroy Nelson, Latham, N.Y., KO 2
Dec. 6 – Sammy Scaff, New York, KO 1
Dec. 27 – Mark Young, Latham, N.Y., KO 1

1986
Jan. 10 – Dave Jaco, Albany, N.Y., TKO 1
Jan. 24 – Mike Jamison, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 5
Feb. 16 – Jesse Ferguson, Troy, N.Y., W DSQ 6
Mar. 10 – Steve Zouski, Uniondale, N.Y., KO 3
May 3 – James Tillis, Glen Falls, N.Y., W 10
May 20 – Mitch Green, New York, W 10
June 13 – Reggie Gross, New York, TKO 1
June 28 – William Hosea, Troy, N.Y., KO 1
July 11 – Lorenzo Boyd, Swan Lake, N.Y., KO 2
July 26 – Marvis Frazier, Glen Falls, N.Y., KO 1
Aug. 17 – Jose Ribalta, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 10
Sept. 6 – Alfonzo Ratliff, Las Vegas, KO 2
Nov. 22 – Trevor Berbick, Las Vegas, TKO 2
(Won WBC Heavyweight Title)

1987
Mar.7 – James Smith, Las Vegas, W 12
(Won WBA Heavyweight Title/Retained WBC Heavyweight Title)
May 30 – Pinklon Thomas, Las Vegas, TKO 6
(Retained WBA/WBC Heavyweight Titles)
Aug. 1 – Tony Tucker, Las Vegas, W 12
(Won IBF Heavyweight Title/Retained WBA/WBC Heavyweight Titles/Became Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion)
Oct. 16 – Tyrell Biggs, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 7
(Retained Undisputed World Heavyweight Title)

1988
Jan. 22 – Larry Holmes, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 4
(Retained Undisputed World Heavyweight Title)
Mar. 21 – Tony Tubbs, Tokyo, Japan, TKO 2
(Retained Undisputed World Heavyweight Title)
June 27 – Michael Spinks, Atlantic City, N.J., KO 1
(Retained Undisputed World Heavyweight Title)

1989
Feb. 25 – Frank Bruno, Las Vegas, TKO 5
(Retained Undisputed World Heavyweight Title)
July 21 – Carl Williams, Atlantic City, N.J., TKO 1
(Retained Undisputed World Heavyweight Title)

1990
Feb. 11 – James Douglas, Tokyo, Japan, KO by 10
(Lost World Heavyweight Title)
June 16 – Henry Tillman, Las Vegas, KO 1
Dec. 8 – Alex Stewart, Atlantic City, N.J., KO 1

1991
Mar. 18 – Donovan Ruddock, Las Vegas, TKO 7
June 28 – Donovan Ruddock, Las Vegas, W 12

1995
Aug. 19 – Peter McNeeley, Las Vegas, W DSQ 1
Dec. 16 – Buster Mathis, Jr., Philadelphia, KO 3

THE Mike Jameson?

Buster Mathis Jr.???

OK, he beat old Larry Holmes, little Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno, and Donovan Rudduck but vs the guys people compare him against he is 0-3-0!

He lost to Lewis when he was really old, we’ll take that away.

VS Holyfield…he had NOTHING to offer Evander.

He did whip Golota but he was damaged goods when he fought Tyson.

I just wish he had fought these guys:
Moorer
Mercer
Morrison
Briggs (it would have been good to see him absolutely whip that punk)
Bowe (after Bowe’s trilogy with Holyfield Tyson would have a shot)
Rahman

No doubt Tyson was a good boxer and fun to watch I just don’t rate him with the best

Again you compare it all post jail, Lyle…Prime, Tyson kicks all those punks…

you doubt it lyle? ;D

Really? Hilarious.

He was and is my favorite of all time but as hard as it is and was to admit he was gone along time ago. Before jail he was gone!