Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???

Jerry Quarry, was a good fighter, very tough. Just look at his losses: ali twice, frazier twice, foreman and ken Norton. All amazing fighters. I think in this day and age he could be a champ

Anyone else, you can think of

Tommy Morrison, Frank Bruno, Razor Rudduck, Ray Mercer, and Gerry Cooney would be title holders if they were in their prime right now

IMO, Quarry would be far too small to compete in the top of the division today.

Norton would be able to compete, but would be totally intimidated by 6’5"+ monsters. :wink:

IMO:

Morrison would be a slightly better Brewster type fighter, so yeah he would be top 5.

Bomber Bruno would lick anyone today for the first seven rounds, but if you are still there after that, you beat Bruno. Frank would be top 10

Donavon would be another useful addition, but he blows too hot and cold to crack the top 5; again another top 10 fighter.

Mercer had the abilty to be top 2 or 3 today, but it depends if he could be bothered; much like it was in the early 90s.

Cooney could intimidate a lot of fighters today, but he lacks/lacked that certain something… maybe a top 5 fighter.

MORRISON WOULD DEFFINITLY HOLD “A” BELT IN THIS DAY IN AGE. I STILL REMEMBER THAT MERCER KO… OUCH!! BUT I STRESS “A” BELT… AS GOOD AS HE WAS HE WAS SERIOUSLY INCONSISTANT. AND AS FAR AS MERCER GOES…YEP DEF IN THE TOP 3… MORRISONS STILL TRYING TO GET BACK IN THE GAME… POOR GUY. THINKS AIDS IS MADE UP… GOVERNMENT CONSPIRICY. HAS NO IDEA WHY NOONE WANTS TO STEP IN THE RING WITH HIM.. I WOULDNT.

Tommy Morrison would’ve been a great fighter except for one slight problem…he couldn’t fight a lick. Earnie Shavers would be a monster among the HWs of today, as would Cleveland Williams.

Earnie Shavers was 6’1, he could punch like a son of a gun but 6’1 is a tad smallish by today’s standards.

Morrison was just reaching his prime when he got aids…he had a decent chin too. With a better trainer he would have been an even bigger force in the division. Vigrets never properly taught him how to set up that huge hook of his. Only had 3 losses (Lewis, Mercer, Bentt) 46 wins 40 KO’s pretty damn good.

Tim Witherspoon
Andrew Golota
Randy Cobb

Those guys would be tough fights for anyone in their primes (though jumping on Golota has proven seriously effective)

Ron Lyle would have been a champ in today’s heavyweight division

David Tua in his prime would be the undisputed world champ in this era

Sounds a bit like tyson and look what he acheived

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Sounds a bit like tyson and look what he acheived
[/quote] TYSON WAS A DIFFERENT STORY

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How ? the description sounds very similar to me

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CUZ TYSON WAS A TALL 5’9.5—ALOT SMALLER— AND HE DIDNT JUST HIT LIKE “A SON OF A GUN” HE KNOCKED EVERYONE BUT 6 OF HIS 50 WINS OUT… HAD 44 KOS

I reckon Georges Carpentier could hold his own against most of todays lot, well ok maybe not Wladimir :stuck_out_tongue:

The point is today’s heavies are really really bad. Could John Ruiz have been a two time world champ in any other era?

LOL, someone brought into internet hype :wink:

                                                                                                                                         Floyd "JUMBO" Cummings....... just kiddin

Carpentier would perhaps be a world class light heavy today, but champion, I doubt it. He lost many of his biggest fights, to Dempsey, Battling Siki, Tommy Gibbons, Gene Tunney and Tommy Loughran. Maybe he was past his prime for these fights but they all occurred when he was in his late 20s and early 30s. None of his recorded weights exceeded 175 lbs.:

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=10604

He did fight as a heavyweight on a few occasions though, and beat Gunboat Smith:

1914-07-16 Gunboat Smith 49-7-5
London, England W DQ 6 20
~ European (EBU) Heavyweight Title ~
White Heavyweight Championship Of The World

Jack Johnson was heavyweight champ at the time.

He also fought and lost to the great negro heavyweight Joe Jeannette:

1914-03-21 Joe Jeannette 77-16-10
Paris, France L PTS 15 15

Quite simply, John Ruiz is a disgrace to world class heavyweight boxing because of his propensity for clinching. I reckon that a guy like Sonny Liston would have stopped Ruiz in 1 round, similar to what David Tua did. Even the much smaller Marciano would have probably knocked him out, though he might have had to wear him down 1st.

CHUCK WEPNE…LOLOLOLOL

Fookin Nora BUtterbean could be a belt holder if he was in his prime now! ;D

Shavers could of been a great in another era for sure. Especially now days look at the shite we are faced with…all these fooking rubish clowns ;D…ok rant over.