lito fraud prolly sees a bigger version of castillo in margarito…the last and best fighter floyd has fought was castillo…two fights that gave floyd a hard time…(he should of lost the first one)
reason prolly why lito fraud don’t want margarito is because his terrified to get in with a bigger version of castillo…mister margarito.
remember how worried floyd was in the corner in that fight with castillo…he was actually asking if he was winning?
lito fraud is so afraid to have his undeafeated record taken away…he rather not take the 8 mill pay day then risk his undeafeated record…
floyd “the next Roy jones” maywheater…is gifted but only against B contenders…another hbo blow up fighter…yea he beat the shyt outta gatti…but gatti was a even bigger bust…just another hbo over hype fighter…
who turns down 8 mill come on floyd you rather fight winkys left over( mosley if he beats vargas again) or past prime dela hoya…if your so good why not beat tony and take the 8 mill…his running out of excuse…I guess theirs no more koysta left over to fight( mitchell, zab) and winkys leftover(mosley) is unavialable then now he should fight tony it makes cheese and sense…
I’m not big on the Floyd is ducking Tony theory because I don’t see how either has anything to offer the other anyway. As dangerous as Tony may be to lil’Floyd all he carries is the WBO belt and no names on his resume. Now on the flip side and you will all think this sounds silly but I don’t see how Floyd has to much to offer a genuine 147 pound champion either. Floyd has been fighting left overs since leaving 135 and that is a fact!!
PBF did not dominate Zab he struggled with him for the first half of the fight. Now think back to how Zab faired against Tszyu, Corley, Spinks, Pineda and Baldomir. Shouldn’t the p4p no1 have done a little better? One thing Floyd has going for him though is he has given himself plenty of time to grow into welterweight. I’m just not jumping on the Floyd bandwagon until he meets a legit champion above 135 pounds. Of course if Gatti beats Baldomir then I have been a little harsh and will praise our lord Floyd with the rest of you. ;D
Not neccessarily. Since boxing is about styles. Floyd can and is allowed to struggle against fighters who have tough styles for him. And how Zab faired against those others guys is irrelevant since its all about styles and Zab and Floyd’s styles are difficult for each other so it doesn’t matter how he faired as long as he won doesn’t it?
And Mayweather had a rematch with Castillo and won it very simply. If he never fought Castillo again(like Hatton will never fight Collazo again) then that would be a legit argument.
So if struggling with Zab is to be excused because of a bad style matchup then could you please point out something special he has done in either 140 or 147?
Mitchell was destroyed by Kostya in half the time after nearly a 2 year layoff with consecutive injurries!!
Gatti was beaten into submission in less time 5 years ago by Oscar and had to fight his absolute best game to edge Micky Ward.
Bruseles was beaten 5 rounds quicker by Roberto Ortega and go check his record out!! He is currently at 18-18 ;D
That only leaves Corely… well Cotto knocked him out in 5
maybe they were all just bad style matchups for our best boxer on the planet?..
so are we all in agreement that floyd is a fraud…not the p4p king…
yea koysta and dela hoya already beat the shyt worst then floyd has beaten them…gatti mitchell zab,…its not so impressive after thinking that the guys he look good against already where beaten bad by pass greats…
when he beat corrales chico wasn’t listed p4p top then…so was castillo…some may agrue they had lots of distraction coming in for the fight with floyd too…
facts is floyd hasn’t done much if at all to really give him p4p #1 spots since he left 135…
so are we in all agreement now…fraud isn’t p4p king…he is very gifted but yet his hand picking oppenents and he worries about the money too damn much…his nothing like winky and pac…well those two just plain out fight other p4p guys around…can’t say the same for lito fraud…
Floyd has pretty much dismantled everyone that he has ever faced & you people seem to neglect that fighters that he has beaten that are worth mention…you hang on to the fighters that you want to discredit.
Let us not forget that Margarito has faced no one.
Let us not forget that Hatton has faced only Kostya.
Let us not forget that Cotto has now been dropped by lesser fighters than Mayweather has destroyed…one of those being Corley that put a bit of a hurt on Cotto.
Let us not forget that Mayweather…no matter how effectively he beats a man…will never have done enough.
I totally agree that Floyd has all the tools to be great, I just don’t think he has done anything great with them since the rematch with Castillo. I just want to see this apparently p4p1 guy dismantle someone that no one else has already done a better job on, or at very least fight someone at the top of their respective division.
I hear you…& I wish that I could say that I see where you & others are coming from…but I don’t. He’s beaten Castillo, Gatti, Corrales, Mitchell, Judah, Corley, Hernarndez, Augustus, Chaves, & Manfredy…those are not names to be balked at…no matter how convinient it is for haters (not you) to put a time frame on it.
Mayweather has done a hell of a lot of the most recent champs right now.
yea exactly floyd has given beat down to his oppenents…
but last few years;
Lets not forget pac has fought mab em jmm
winky mosley tito j.t
floyd…
and sadly for floyd if he does fight tony, hatton, or cotto it still doesn’t match the named oppenent pac and winky has fought…
your correct on tony he has fought nobody
hatton only fought old koysta
cotto is basically still young
nothing around floyd points his the true p4p king…even if you beat your oppenent like how floyd has…compare those oppenents to those of pacs oppenent who pac all dropps…and winky gives boxing lessons to…
the only thing is floyd is undeafeated…but his living no where near the danger zone pac and winky survives in…though they have mix result they fight all thats great around but at the end of the night pac and winky is on top…as for floyd thier isn’t really anyone great to fight…so he goes on to display his talent against b contenders…and when tony calls him out…he turns down 8 million and doesn’t care about the fans wanting that fight…who does that?
come on lito fraud…p4p king has responsibility…gotta fight all challenges specially if your going to get 8 million for beating a fight like tony who hasn’t fought anybody right?
lito floyd prolly sees margarito as a bigger better version of castillo…lito floyd stays peranoid not wanting his perfect record taken away…remember floyd being worried in the corner against castillo…some of the fear of losing his perfect record against castillo gotta have left affects…and his terrified to face some one similar which is margarito…its prolly a nightmare for floyd…
calling him a fraud only he gives us reason to…as a real boxing fan…its not fair to call him p4p king when his done nothing against someone that hasn’t been whoop by someone else already…his last 3 years is a joke compare to what winky and pac even j.t has been doing…and when we want to see him fight tony he turns 8 mill and dissapoint fight fans so he can hopefully fight past prime oscar or winkys left over mosley…what a fraud…
I remember when Zab was calling Kostya a one dimensional plodding Frankenstein, It was fuck@#$ing great watching Tszyu cash that Mofo’s check ! Zab -vs.- Floyd was Gangsta meets Gangsta B.S. both have similar personalities only Floyd has gotten smarter , business wise and has since dropped some of that thug persona . But you know its about styles here. Tszyu is a huge puncher, , Floyd is more of a smooth boxer, so the thing with Judah is both Tszyu and Floyd won as their styles would have it. Both did a great job ! IMO
yea exactly floyd has given beat down to his oppenents…
but last few years;
Lets not forget pac has fought mab em jmm
winky mosley tito j.t
floyd…
and sadly for floyd if he does fight tony, hatton, or cotto it still doesn’t match the named oppenent pac and winky has fought…
your correct on tony he has fought nobody
hatton only fought old koysta
cotto is basically still young
nothing around floyd points his the true p4p king…even if you beat your oppenent like how floyd has…compare those oppenents to those of pacs oppenent who pac all dropps…and winky gives boxing lessons to…
the only thing is floyd is undeafeated…but his living no where near the danger zone pac and winky survives in…though they have mix result they fight all thats great around but at the end of the night pac and winky is on top…as for floyd thier isn’t really anyone great to fight…so he goes on to display his talent against b contenders…and when tony calls him out…he turns down 8 million and doesn’t care about the fans wanting that fight…who does that?
come on lito fraud…p4p king has responsibility…gotta fight all challenges specially if your going to get 8 million for beating a fight like tony who hasn’t fought anybody right?
lito floyd prolly sees margarito as a bigger better version of castillo…lito floyd stays peranoid not wanting his perfect record taken away…remember floyd being worried in the corner against castillo…some of the fear of losing his perfect record against castillo gotta have left affects…and his terrified to face some one similar which is margarito…its prolly a nightmare for floyd…
calling him a fraud only he gives us reason to…as a real boxing fan…its not fair to call him p4p king when his done nothing against someone that hasn’t been whoop by someone else already…his last 3 years is a joke compare to what winky and pac even j.t has been doing…and when we want to see him fight tony he turns 8 mill and dissapoint fight fans so he can hopefully fight past prime oscar or winkys left over mosley…what a fraud…[/quote]
floyd wants the 154 lb belt…he already has a belt at 147
hes gonna jump to 154 to take spinks’s title making him the 1st fighter EVER to win 5 world championships in 5 different weight classes before he turns 3o (feb 24 2007)
so he doesnt have a lot of time left
how do you figure he doesnt fight good opponents??
look at who he has fought… keep in mind that before he fights most of these guys, the critics start saying that this is the guy whos gonna beat floyd
then they fight, and when its all over floyd made them look SO bad that these same critics are the ones who turn around and say “oh well he was nobody to begin with”
theres two things that matter to floyd:
money$$$
his legacy
fighting margarito would bring him a lot of money, but do nothing for his legacy
or he could fight spinks and make maybe 5-6 million, but also do something that NO OTHER fighter has EVER done.
if it is money he is after we have Tony, if it is legacy he is after then exactly what big names are on Floyd’s resume that will be talked about in ten or fifteen years time? Spinks you say?
and before you gimme his 135 conquests yes I agree he was possibly one of the best lightweights to lace’em up but thats not the question any more. You don’t build legacy by calling people out or James Toney would be one of the best Heavyweight Champions today.
For you to say something that ridiculous proves that you are nothing more than someone who dislikes Mayweather & goes to extremes to p!ss & moan about him.
Sadly…you fail to realize that Floyd remains undefeated & has fought better opposition than the last 5 men that Pac has fought excluding Barrera.
