Gotta admit it. Oscar’s performance impressed me last night. I was hoping for a Mayorga KO, but it wasn’t to be. I predicted an Oscar win by UD, by the way.
But before we start nominating Oscar for President, let’s keep some perspective. I think it’s pretty funny how boxing fans see things the way they WANT to see them. When Tito beat Mayorga, it’s because:
Mayorga fought a stupid fight.
Mayorga is not a true 160-pounder.
Tito got lucky.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But now Oscar beats Mayorga, and he’s the best fighter in the history of boxing. Stop the presses!! Oscar for sainthood!!
Well, I hate to piss the De la Hoya fans off (again), but…
Does anyone else see a pattern here? Tito destroys a fighter… Oscar comes by later and cleans up the scraps. Happened with Vargas, happened with Campas, happened with Mayorga. Oh, I forgot… Tito KO’d Vargas in 12, but DLH did it in 11. Tito KO’d Mayorga in 8, but DLH did it in 6. That means Oscar must be better, huh?
You know what? Forget about PBF being Oscar’s next opponent. I’ve got a better candidate. How about… Joppy?!? Or Oba Carr? How about David Reid?
Hey, I know Oscar’s fans won’t like this, but Oscar can beat PFB and ride off into the sunset on his white horse. But there’s one thing he’ll never get off his record and will never get payback for:
His loss to Tito in the biggest fight of his life, not in Puerto Rico where he could blame partisan judges, but in Las Vegas, close to his own backyard and in front of thousand of screaming, adoring fans. That thorn will always be sticking into his side. (Heh, heh).
That’s not what the judges saw. The judges saw someone who was winning the fight, got tagged good, and decided to run for his life in the last rounds. DLH threw the fight away, whether that makes you feel good or not.
well oscar and tito are now currently neighbors and live in the same neighborhood in PR. so maybe they can choreograph a better more convincing thrown fight in their backyards. :lickish:
lets ask Mayorga who hits harder. he dropped his hands for Tito and didnt budge. and he got dropped by Oscar.Again Oscar is not stupid he wont stand toe to toe with anyone who he can clearly outbox. I hope this happens, but i doubt it, and if tito does come back who is he gonna pick to fight this time. who is a smaller guy out there that cant fight and is stupid.
Oscar beat Tito, anyone who knows boxing knows that.. He decisevely won 8 rounds and outlanded him by over 100 punches.. DLH has also never been completely embaressed and outclassed the way Tito has in his 2 defeats.. So I disagree. I don’t think this win does a whole lot for Oscar and I see your point about him feasting on Trinidads opponents, but DLH is still the better fighter by a stride I think.
Hey, at least you add “I think.” It’s more than most people do. You know, I’ve read tons of posts on this forum about how Tito was so embarrassed by Hopkins. Personally, I think Tito’s showing against Hopkins wasn’t as disgraceful’s as Oscar’s. But again, that’s only my opinion. Yes, Tito was outclassed. Losing to one of the greatest 160-pounders in history is no shame in itself. Don’t forget that this was Tito’s 2nd fight at 160. His first one was a thorough beating of Joppy, someone everyone thought was great until Tito destroyed him. Then he was just a bum. Typical of Tito haters. I WILL cave on the Wright fight. I don’t know what the hell was wrong with Tito that night. I was thoroughly disgusted with his showing, and I’m sad that was his last fight. Again, boxing fans, being the fickle group they are, only remember you for your last fight. They quickly forget how storied a career has been.
But having said all that, I commend you for expressing your points of view without sounding like some of the idiots on this board.
Trinidad never took rematches against fighter who beat him, didn’t even pursue it. He is willing to come out of retirement go down to 154 or catch weight for peanuts, to beat a fighter he dominated but won’t fight oscar for millions and to exonerate his biggest win from controversy. At least oscar rematched mosley whether u believe he won or lost and also has been calling out trinidad for years. whenever tito loses and is humiliated in a fight he wants no part of that fighter. Objective minds know Oscar won the trinidad fight only eggheads will say Tito won.
by the way Oscar has already fought oba carr, and ppl recognize oscar as a better fighter than tito, not because oscar fought tito’s leftovers but because he dominated and embarrased tito, because isn’t one-dimensional like tito, and because he never got a one-sided beating like tito (also not once but twice)
I was wondering when you were going to crawl out from under the rock you usually hide under and start spewing your anti-Tito bullsh*t. You’ve proven time and again to be a serious Oscar “nut hugger.” Which is why nothing you say I take seriously. I’ve sparred with you over Tito-DLH in the past and have no wish to do so again. You want to talk about humiliation? How about Oscar banging the canvas in mock anger (it was actually relief) after a glancing liver shot by Hopkins? At least Tito fought through until the end, TKO’d by the bigger man. And don’t forget, Tito has a LEGITIMATE victory at 160 on his record, his KO of Joppy. Not a gift-wrapped present from the judges like Oscar got over Sturm.
Face some facts, dude:
The record shows a VICTORY of Tito over Oscar. And it was in Las Vegas, Oscar’s backyard. I guess the judges didn’t take too kindly to Oscar’s running like the bitch from hell. To Oscar’s ever-lasting dissapointment, he’ll have that memory the rest of his life.
Oscar, unlike Tito, has ALWAYS hand-picked his opponents. He fought an over-the-hill Chavez. He fought a shot Vargas. He fought a shot Mayorga.
Oscar, unlike Tito, cherishes his Golden Boy image much too much. Tito just enjoyed fighting. Love him or hate him, he always came to fight whoever they put in front of him. Oscar is all about legacy. Tito was all about the sheer joy of fighting.
Tito fan…Oscar beat Mayorga’s ass & outboxed him. You have to admit Oscar did a better job because Mayorga came to Oscar to fight…he didn’t against Tito. He just stood there & let him hit him.
Don’t let your love of P.R. cloud your judgement…Oscar beat Mayorga…& he beat Tito…& if Tito steps up again…he’ll get beaten…AGAIN. ;D
Mayorga didn’t come in to fight against Tito??? C’mon Wacko… say it isn’t so. Not you too!! Damn, it’s getting tiring to have to defend Tito from all the unfair and incorrect stuff some people want to pass off as truth. Hey, maybe Tito will come back and fight Oscar and maybe not. And who the hell knows for sure what will happen? But one thing’s for sure. The judges in Las Vegas that night, in Oscar’s backyard, on HBO, the network so in love with the Golden Boy, for some reason decided that Oscar had thrown away the fight. And THAT’S HOW THEY SCORED IT. Case closed. If they fight again, we’ll see what happens. Until then, it exists as a W for Tito and a L for Oscar in the record books.
And for the record, wack… please reread the first two sentences of my original post. I don’t want to start another Tito vs. Oscar war over this (needlessly), but I’m not going to back down from another poster’s ignorant comments, either. (And I’m not talking about you, ok?)
