For god sake can everyone stop hugging his fucking nuts! I respect the guy and he is very good…but now that he beat lacy, he is unbeatable. Let me let you guys in on a little secret…lacy was never great! He was muscly and he had power but he was no boxer. He used power to win and he met a boxer in calzaghe. I always thought lacy was overhyped and one dimensional. Now apparently kessler aint shit compared to calzaghe, mundine aint shit compared to calzaghe, beyer aint shit compared to calzaghe, green aint shit compared calzaghe and he is totally unbeatable? What a load of crap, styles make fights people and the only one of them with a style resembling lacy is danny green and he would get beaten by calzaghe. But kessler…the guy is fucking huge and he can hit…but he can box unlike lacy, it wouldnt be a walk in the park for joe. Mundine is very very quick, great evasive skills…not heaps powerful but he got some power..he knocked out thornberry which is something joe didnt. Beyer…he aint great but when the odds are stacked against him he seems to fight well. He probably wouldnt beat joe but dont under estimate him. Like i said, all the respect in the world for joe and i think he is the man in the division but for god sake…he is not unbeatable, lacy was the first champ he had fought in something like 11 years and mostly the rest were nobodies. All the hype is just really starting to get to me and i think some people need reality checks.
The Americans has to hype Calzaghe as he made their best SMW look foolish, very foolish.
Your right :coolclick:
Calzaghe gets hyped because he’s the best in a seemingly weak division. It’s “seemingly weak” because the talent there is young and unseasoned.
If Calzaghe needs tougher fights he should step up to 175 or go down to 160!
How did I know that you two would be on this thread like a Fly on shite?.. ::**
(Calzaghe beats them all… I don’t think any one has said he can walk through any one the same way he did lacy)
“You two” meaning???
I respect Joe’s ability I just think Lacy was a little green for him. Calzaghe can totally dominate the division though I mean vs Kessler or anyone else he’ll win. Let him fight Taylor or Hopkins or Tarver or even Johnson for a tougher fight
well 3 people replied Lyle… two of which are potent Kessler fan boys who can rarely if ever make a post on here with it ‘it all coming back to kessler’.
Use your head and think who ‘those two’ might be…
K, just checking that’s all…I give everyone a fair shake…but Calzaghe has fought better fighters than Kessler who seems to me to be a 168 version of Nicolay Valuev with the opposition he fights
Calzaghe is actually officially superman after beating lacy so convincingly ::**
incase u didnt know lol
He was RJJ-esque on that night imo. He was simply brilliant and Lacy IS championship material and I still think he will be champ but Calzaghe is one of the all time great 168 lbers now imo. I don’t think anyone in the division could have beat him that night. That terrible terrible night.
They won’t give Lacy ANY credit because it would elevate Calzaghe too high above Kessler and they couldn’t cope with it… ::**
Honestly… search the pair of thems posts… the talk about no one other than Kessler or Jeff Lacy…
i agree with the original post,im a huge calzaghe fan,i was there in manchester and anybody seeing that performance live would find it difficult to say anything other than ‘joe would destroy x,y and z’.
however there are competitive fights at smw for him,kessler in particular.‘styles make fights’ applies to joe more than any other fighter i can think of,joe is most vunerable when the fight doesnt get him fired up,i see that as his biggest danger at smw,there is a risk of joe beating himself in that situation.The better the opponent the better joe fights,i believe he deems the other smw as being unfit to share a ring with him-on the occasions he has thought that before he has looked awful.(thornberry,starie for example)
If he had to read how ‘Lacy are bum and Kessler are king’ 24/7 it would be over for Kessler with in a round… its so irratating… I don’t mind other people’s opinions… I can’t stand nuthuggers 
[quote="Lyle "]
“You two” meaning???
I respect Joe’s ability I just think Lacy was a little green for him. Calzaghe can totally dominate the division though I mean vs Kessler or anyone else he’ll win. Let him fight Taylor or Hopkins or Tarver or even Johnson for a tougher fight
[/quote]isn’t that Joe C’s plan? fight the winner of Tarver/B-HOP? who else honestly stands a chance at beating him…not Kessler, mundine or green…He’s not going to drop to 160…
lyle,were you joking about calzaghe dropping down to 160?
Tarver would outbox him imo
And yes, Lacy was overhyped
I think Tarver is the only guy he has a realistic chance of fighting soon, that has a realistic chance of winning… But it would by no means easy.. Who has Tarver ever really outboxed, he had to go through hell to do so against Glen Johnson and he was in trouble in both fights… He could barely outbox old Reggie Johnson who managed to drop him late.. And Eric Harding flat out beat him. Tarver isn’t some great skilled boxer like ppl seem to think… If anything he is a half assed brawler because he just throws flurries for about 30 seconds or so per round… Having said that he is a very strong southpaw with a granite chin who is bigger then Calzaghe, and given the way they both like to fight I could see it being a very good match.. But I just think calzaghe can outwork Tarver, Tarver does what he did for 36 minutes against Lacy, for about 30 seconds every round.. And still manages to gass out late, but you never know how Calzaghe will handle Tarvers power, especially if he tastes some big shots.
i think cazaghe would handle tarver’s power fine,he didnt go down once from the age of 12 til he fought mitchell,which is the only real knockdown of his career.in over 200 senior amateur fights he didnt go down once,and in 40 pro fights he has only been down once legitimately
Snakey…it’s like this…to my knowledge…you never really followed Calzaghe closely…atleast not closely enough to pass good judgement.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion…so here’s mine…& this is honesty…not just a slap for a slap.
I kind of felt the same way about Kostya that you do about Calzaghe. I personally don’t think that Kostya is all that…not like everyone else does or did.
On the flip side…Calzaghe’s a bit more worthy of having his balls tugged because he’s undefeated & has defended his title for many years. Something that Kostya wasn’t to sucessful at.
People on this site are going to be up in the air over the man because he is the people’s champ of the region…just like I am sure that Kostya was & I am sure if you got on some Aussie site…that’d be all you would hear…the sound of Kostya’s balls gently squeeking as they were squeezed…so let it go.
Now…Calzaghe’s accomplishments…if you were to have followed his career…far surpass just beating Lacy. The total destruction of Lacy get’s Calzaghe high praise because whether or not anyone wants to admit it…he was going to rule the division. Lacy is not one dimensional…he just got his ass kicked by a superior fighter. Lacy was not the only fighter that Calzaghe has fought & to say that the rest were nobodies shows that you know very little about the division that you are criticizing…which really surprises me.
As far as opponents go…I don’t see anyone at 168 that can give him competition…not Kess, Beyer, Mundine, & all the rest.
Speaking of your countryman…Mundine & his chances against Calzaghe…oh my. Yes Mundine is quick but to say that he has great evasive skills is a stretch. Calzaghe might not have knocked out Thornberry…but Joe’s never been beaten…Mundine’s been whacked all around the ring & he also got his ass laid out by Sven Ottke. Sven Ottke…I mean…need I fwockin laugh?
Let’s just wait & see how Joe does at 175lbs…there’s where the competition lies.
Glen Johnson is the next opponent…maybe he will have the answers to the new questions that are now arising for Calzaghe.
Credit for what? Taking a worse beating than Ashira?
This is not like I after the fight start posting that Lacy was hyped and useless. It was clear from the first time I saw him box.