I would think Tyson would have had an easy time against both of those guys..Though they all have tremendous power,I think Tysons hand speed and Blazing power combo’s would make the difference
watcha guys and gals think?
The only way Tyson beats Marciano is an early knockout because although he could go to the later rounds he would usually become increasingly frustrated toward the 12th. If anyone could frustrate Tyson in late rounds, it would be Marciano.
Tyson beats Marciano any round, morning, noon or night, any place, and could fight another sanctioned bout within a half hour. He had 40 lbs on Marciano, 10 times as fast, 10 times as strong. Marciano doesn’t want it with Mike.
Gotta agree with that. People seem to forget how small Marciano was compared to recent heavies.
the tyson that lost to daouglas and holyfeild would have lost to fraziee ..frazier culd hit and hit back and wa just as tenacious as holyfeild
Marciano woulda lost but it wouldnt be his fault …at 180 lbs he was more of a Ltheavy Wt than a cruiser wt almost
Tyson doesn’t beat any top 10 all-time great…at all. He didn’t have the heart or desire to
Tyson would beat both easily in his prime. Frazier cos Tysons combos would be too fast and marciano cos he’s simply too small.
Tyson definetly had a case of fighters A.D.D. if he didnt win by the half way point he got frustrated lost focus and became uniterested as it seemed.I think he would just crush Rocky cause he was slow and to small and Frazier would stand there as well and get his head punched in,if a slow moving Foreman could pummell Frazier Imagine what an explosive,Blazing MIke Tyson would do to him.I think Tyson would end Marciano’s night rounds1-2 and Frazier by round 3
Tyson beats them both in his prime as much as i hate to think of Rocky being beaten, the size difference is the factor, but if marciano wasnt as fit as he was he would easily gain 20 or so pounds. Therefore Marciano nowdays with modern training techniques etc would be a beast. He was probly the fittest heavy of all time.
tyson to KO both guys. on the same night when he was in his prime.
I see the strategy behind a fight with Rocky being about like the Ettiene fight, both men stay in really close, Rocky would tie him up on the inside and if it’s a 15 round fight and Rocky got to round 5 it’s over for Mike. I think Rocky had the perfect style to beat Floyd Patterson which means he had a good style matchup for Tyson. Size is one thing, yeah Rocky was tiny but he was ALWAYS the smaller guy, and it never mattered.
VS Frazier I think Joe was very similar to Mike in that the punches he would take were uppercuts and straights. He had better up and down head movement and Tyson had good side to side headmovement. This fight could honestly go either way but like I said, you get past round 5 and your chances get better and better of beating Tyson. Remember that Foreman was a HUGE man compared to Frazier and Joe was just as big as Mike, so I don’t think Mike would be able to bully Joe.
i hope this is a joke becaus ein all serousiness tyson kos rocky in 1-3 he had no defense whatsoever and not withstanding he was 189 pounds if that and he had slow hand speed and wouldnt be able to touch tyson, marciano could not beat frazier, hes an all time grat but hes too small and undergifted, hes as tough as nails and has all the heart in the world though but cmon guys lets be real, i would think tyson would stop him about a minute or so in the fight.
Anyone who thinks Marciano beats Tyson is an idiot who can’t grasp the concept of reality.
u need to watch more frazier fights ,like frazer -quarry etc …joe was taller than mike and didnt fight like mike he woulda kept countering more like holyfeild did w/ hooks and body shots an over the top rights …and only in fighs w/ ali frazier never tok a step back ..frazier new how to take a step back to get into punching ange like holyfeild …its almost certain that frazier would beat the tyson that lost to holyfeild
tyson could beat them both—but dont fu**** bullhs*** about how easy it would b 2 beat marciano—and then exclude frazier. frazier would get ko the same round as rocky. so dont single out marciano–in a question that involves both
Disagree here. I agree Tyson would KO them both, but he would have a much easier time with Marciano. I think the Marciano fans on this site have seen the movie Rocky III one too many times. A little 185 pound fighter isn’t going to stand a chance against a bonified heavyweight. Marciano reigned during not only the weakest era of heavyweights, but also one of the smallest eras. The fighters he beat over 210 lbs are today’s equivalent of Tough Man contestants(and yes, Joe Louis was an old man). If you want to hypothetically match him up with today’s cruiserweights that’s fine, let me tell you, Marciano get’s destroyed against every major heavyweight today, and even going back 30 years. Marciano wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes as a heavyweight in the 70s.
Y’all should know by now that fighters were much more durable in Rocky’s day and are getting less durable all of the time. No fighters can endure the exceptionally long rounds fought in the past and in more recent times, if Tyson or even Lennox Lewis took all the punches that say for instance Frazier took from Ali, they would be dead. Science has proven this to some extent with plants and animals. For instance, Most types of fruits and vegetables today have considerably less nutrients than they did just 30 years ago. Fossil teeth and bones of men and animals have become much less dense over time. The reasons for this are due to the laws of entropy and thermodynamics that are causing a measurable weakening of the earth’s magnetic field, spin, internal heat engine, etc…
Marciano specialized in knocking out the toughest of the tough in days much tougher than tyson could ever take. Marciano could also take a much better punch than Tyson. Lewis, Charles & Wolcott were call considered big punchers and blasted Rocky round after round, Charles split Rocky’s nose wide open but they still all got their buuts kicked in the end.
Small, past-his-prime Hollyfield took everything Tyson had and still knocked him out. Other relatively light punchers hurt Tyson to in his prime as well. Hollyfield and Douglas never knocked any upper tier heavyweights out except Tyson. Marciano would have done it much easier in my opinion. University of Washington and the U.S Military measured Rocky’s punch at an amazing 1000 foot pounds which if I recall correctly was much greater than Tyson’s punch stats.
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I actually think quiet the opposite. Evander Holyfield showed that the way to beat Tyson. That was to apply pressure and back him up. With that being said. There were few heavyweights in the history of boxing better at fighting that way then Rocky Marciano and Joe Frazier. Both of these guys just got the right style to beat mike. Tyson had a little bit of a size and weight advantage on Rocky. But I don’t think that would of mattered a bit. Rocky was used to that. Rocky was also in far better condition. He never stopped coming no matter what. And he was like a buzz saw that just kept throwing more punches every round. He seemed almost to never tire. And both Rocky and Joe weren’t the type to be intimidated by Tyson’s prefight antics. So I just don’t see Tyson’s style being that effective against 2 truly great fighters that have the one style, Tyson has problems with.
Small Holyfield? Evander is almost 6’3. That hardly constitutes being small in my book.
Evander beat Tyson because he has more upper body strength than him and was able to push him back all night long. Tyson hits harder, but Evander is stronger. When it comes to strength, Tyson is on another planet than Marciano. And in Tyson’s prime, the man was a machine as far as conditioning. Tyson-Marciano would be identical to Tyson-Marvis Frazier.