# Toney vs. Peter erupts!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Boxing Talk\ **Created:** [July 13, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380 "2006-07-13T06:48:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wacko3205](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@Wacko3205](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Wacko3205)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/1 "2006-07-13T06:48:39Z")
[b]Toney vs. Peter erupts!!! July 12, 2006 By Rocco Morales [http://www.fightnews.com/rocco03.htm](http://www.fightnews.com/rocco03.htm) Yesterday, the Palms Restaurant in downtown Los Angeles hosted the initial press conference to announce the September 02nd fight between James “Lights Out” Toney versus Samuel “The Nigerian Nightmare” Peter at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. This fight is a WBC Heavyweight Eliminator with the winner slated to face the winner of the August 12th WBC Championship fight between Hasim Rahman and Oleg Maskaev. Both fighters, Toney and Peter, recently came up just short against two of the current world champions. Last September, Peter faced Wladimir Klitschko in an IBF and WBO elimination match. Despite knocking down Klitschko three times, Peter still suffered a defeat at the hands of the judges. Toney, in his last fight, fought to a draw with WBC champion Hasim “The Rock” Rahman. The fight is appropriately titled “No Risk, No Reward” and this is very fitting as each fighter is taking a huge risk as both would have likely earned title shots within the next few months even without taking taking such a dangerous fight against each other. James Toney’s promoter, Dan Goossen, Goossen-Tutor Promotions, acted as the MC for the press conference. After the standard introductions of those behind the scenes at Showtime and the Staples Center, Goossen then turned over the podium to Sam Peter’s promoter, Dino Duva. “It takes two great warriors to commit to this kind of fight”, Duva said. Duva went on to praise James Toney, calling him one of the best fighters of the last 20 years and spoke very highly of his accomplishments at the Middleweight and Cruiserweight division. However, in a statement that clearly irritated Toney, Duva said, “However, I think James still has something to prove at Heavyweight, and that is why I believe he took this fight.” Duva continued by saying that James Toney is a very smart fighter, one of the smartest around. However, Duva then added that despite Toney’s smarts, “he did a very dumb thing…dumbest thing he has ever done”, by accepting a fight against Samuel Peter. Duva sounded amused at the title of the promotion and said that it would be more aptly named “Not a chance”, summing up Toney’s chances against Peter on September 02nd. Meanwhile, Toney was growing clearly irritated with Duva’s remarks which transformed the press conference from cordial to confrontational. Goossen, in returning to the podium, thanked Duva for his remarks and said that it would do nothing more than add to Toney’s determination. This, he said, made Duva and Peter’s manager, Ivalyo Gotev, “Dumb and Dumber.” It was then Gotev’s turn to lose his cool as he expressed resentment that this was nothing more than the “Goossen and Toney show”, speaking of how the press conference had been controlled by the two of them. He added, “This is Peter’s time”, and pointing to Toney shouting “You are going down!” “No excuses, no excuses” Gotev then shouted at Toney. That was all that was needed to set off Toney’s temper. Toney shouted back to Gotev “You talking like you going to do something.” By then Gotev was standing, pointing and shouting at Toney and Toney had to be restrained by his entire team to keep from getting at Gotev. Meanwhile, Peter remained seated and never lost his cool. After Toney was unable to get to Gotev he then picked up a glass of water and threw it, glass and all, at Gotev. With that, the press conference came to a premature but very eventful end, with Goossen shouting the ticket prices over the surrounding commotion. Tickets are $300, $150, $75 and $50 and Ticketmaster will be auctioning off some true ringside seats, three packages in all.” “No Risk, No Reward” will be broadcast live on Showtime on September at 10PM EST/7PM PST with Al Bernstein and Steve Albert announcing the fight. FightNews will be bringing its readers all of the preflight activities in the days leading up to the fight.[/b] ---
**Author:** ![Violent\_Demise](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/user_avatar/forum.saddoboxing.com/violent_demise/32/5808_2.png) [@Violent\_Demise](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Violent_Demise)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/2 "2006-07-13T07:34:20Z")
Should be intresting ---
**Author:** ![BrooklyniteQueen](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@BrooklyniteQueen](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/BrooklyniteQueen)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/3 "2006-07-13T07:51:29Z")
dude is gonna get Peter beaten up bad. We all remember what happened to Jirov and he hasn’t been the same since. ---
**Author:** ![drgoodlooking](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@drgoodlooking](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/drgoodlooking)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/4 "2006-07-13T12:49:02Z")
Toney is the best! ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Galaxy](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Galaxy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/5 "2006-07-13T14:38:53Z")
It’s hard to believe but Toney is quite possibly the best heavyweight out there. Peter’s gonna get a bad beat down ---
**Author:** ![Kev](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Kev](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Kev)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/6 "2006-07-13T14:44:03Z")
Should be one hell of a fight. I really respect Toney for taking this fight. He’s in with the biggest puncher in boxing right now. So what he’s a no-skilled slugger, Toney is a natural middleweight, (hard to believe looking at him I know :P) and he’s going in with undoubtedly the biggest puncher he’s ever faced. Should be the best heavyweight matchup of 2006. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Galaxy](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Galaxy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/7 "2006-07-13T14:50:12Z")
Certainly the most intriguing. & what about Tua’s power… come on just give him 10 to 20 more tune-ups & he’ll be ready for the best… honest. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Rock](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@JT\_Rock](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/JT_Rock)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/8 "2006-07-13T16:52:11Z")
I didnt see the Conference but the the thing that intrigues me is how Toneys face dosent look fat and bloated as usual I didnt see any full body pictures of him but could JAMES " LIGHTS OUT" TONEY actually be in shape??? IF so he will put on a clinic and school Peter during a long punishing frustrating night ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/user_avatar/forum.saddoboxing.com/system/32/5_2.png) [@system](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/9 "2006-07-13T16:53:25Z")
cc wacko ---
**Author:** ![Kev](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Kev](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Kev)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/10 "2006-07-13T16:54:45Z")
> [@jtrock](#): > > I didnt see the Conference but the the thing that intrigues me is how Toneys face dosent look fat and bloated as usual I didnt see any full body pictures of him but could JAMES " LIGHTS OUT" TONEY actually be in shape??? IF so he will put on a clinic and school Peter during a long punishing frustrating night It’s only becuase the pics are side on jtrock. If you saw him face on, I’m sure he’s still as fat faced as in my avatar pic 😛 ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Rock](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@JT\_Rock](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/JT_Rock)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/11 "2006-07-13T17:28:19Z")
> [@bilbo](#): > > > [@jtrock](#): > > > > I didnt see the Conference but the the thing that intrigues me is how Toneys face dosent look fat and bloated as usual I didnt see any full body pictures of him but could JAMES " LIGHTS OUT" TONEY actually be in shape??? IF so he will put on a clinic and school Peter during a long punishing frustrating night > > It’s only becuase the pics are side on jtrock. If you saw him face on, I’m sure he’s still as fat faced as in my avatar pic 😛 I dont know dude I just saw a few more pics you can actually see his friggin chin for once and some bone structure I think this is a good thing for him love to see him focus and become a Bona Fied Heavyweight Champ..Out of all the Heavyweights he has the most talent including existing Champs ---
**Author:** ![Lionheart\_Lacy](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b5a626/32.png) [@Lionheart\_Lacy](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Lionheart_Lacy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/12 "2006-07-13T17:49:52Z")
Toney’s the best, He’s Gonna whoop his and HIS mamma’s ASs ;D 🙂 I think if toney comes in at a good weight then he could outbox peters, still i think peters is a monster, and the guy poses a threat. I still think that mr toney is too smart a fighter to get himself KTFO. plus he has a granite jaw! ---
**Author:** ![leon9996](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@leon9996](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/leon9996)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/13 "2006-07-13T17:56:37Z")
> [@jtrock](#): > > I didnt see the Conference but the the thing that intrigues me is how Toneys face dosent look fat and bloated as usual I didnt see any full body pictures of him but could JAMES " LIGHTS OUT" TONEY actually be in shape??? IF so he will put on a clinic and school Peter during a long punishing frustrating night toney said after the press conference that he has been training for the last 4 weeks ---
**Author:** ![bigragu](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@bigragu](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/bigragu)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/14 "2006-07-13T18:03:43Z")
> [@Violent Demise](#): > > Should be intresting you know anything Toney is involved in is going to reek of drama…If Peter doesn’t KO Toney inside of 5 rds this could be as boring a fight as there is… ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/15 "2006-07-13T18:11:58Z")
> [@jtrock](#): > > > [@bilbo](#): > > > > > [@jtrock](#): > > > > > > I didnt see the Conference but the the thing that intrigues me is how Toneys face dosent look fat and bloated as usual I didnt see any full body pictures of him but could JAMES " LIGHTS OUT" TONEY actually be in shape??? IF so he will put on a clinic and school Peter during a long punishing frustrating night > > > > It’s only becuase the pics are side on jtrock. If you saw him face on, I’m sure he’s still as fat faced as in my avatar pic 😛 > > I dont know dude I just saw a few more pics you can actually see his friggin chin for once and some bone structure I think this is a good thing for him love to see him focus and become a Bona Fied Heavyweight Champ..Out of all the Heavyweights he has the most talent including existing Champs That may be true, but Toney is also fighting father time, he is no spring chicken and his next three fights are pivotal in his career. He needs to win this and then defeat the champion in his next match and try to unify after that, he has the talent but time is running short. ---
**Author:** ![HEsoNIce](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7ea924/32.png) [@HEsoNIce](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/HEsoNIce)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/16 "2006-07-13T18:23:33Z")
Up until now Toney’s shit-talking was cool cuz he’d been backing it up, but recently he’s been slower, fatter and less effective with both his jabs and his counters. A great example would be his most recent draw to The Rock. Although Hasim had been in shape like never before and Toney had been out of shape like never before, I don’t want to keep hoping Toney comes prepared to go all out for 12 rounds. If in shape, he could’ve possibly KO’d Rock, even though he would’ve been much smaller. Bottom line Peter was more impressive in his loss to Vlad, than Toney was in his draw with Rahman. Is Toney pissed because he knows none of these guys can touch him in terms of skills and boxing ability? No one, including myself, is denying that!! But skills can only carry you so far. Preparation, conditioning, discipline and heart will bring you big wins. Toney should shut his fat ass up, I’m pulling for Peter in this one at least I know that he’s not scared of Vlad. For all the shit talking, and then to turn down a title fight?! I’m done with TOney. \>:mad ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Rock](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@JT\_Rock](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/JT_Rock)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/17 "2006-07-13T18:42:25Z")
> [@gbrandon](#): > > > [@jtrock](#): > > > > > [@bilbo](#): > > > > > > > [@jtrock](#): > > > > > > > > I didnt see the Conference but the the thing that intrigues me is how Toneys face dosent look fat and bloated as usual I didnt see any full body pictures of him but could JAMES " LIGHTS OUT" TONEY actually be in shape??? IF so he will put on a clinic and school Peter during a long punishing frustrating night > > > > > > It’s only becuase the pics are side on jtrock. If you saw him face on, I’m sure he’s still as fat faced as in my avatar pic 😛 > > > > I dont know dude I just saw a few more pics you can actually see his friggin chin for once and some bone structure I think this is a good thing for him love to see him focus and become a Bona Fied Heavyweight Champ..Out of all the Heavyweights he has the most talent including existing Champs > > That may be true, but Toney is also fighting father time, he is no spring chicken and his next three fights are pivotal in his career. He needs to win this and then defeat the champion in his next match and try to unify after that, he has the talent but time is running short. Agreed and if its true that he has been training the past 4 weeks than it shows he is cognizant of the fact that he needs to structure the rest of his career with urgency he far from shot so his age is a factoe but not that dramatic of one he dosent have alot of miles on him because of his defense 1st strategy ---
**Author:** ![Poom](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Poom](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Poom)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/18 "2006-07-13T18:50:54Z")
here it is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQQYE7al3Y&search=james%20toney](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQQYE7al3Y&search=james%20toney) ---
**Author:** ![Lords\_Gym](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lords\_Gym](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Lords_Gym)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/19 "2006-07-13T20:21:32Z")
> [@Poom](#): > > here it is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQQYE7al3Y&search=james%20toney](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQQYE7al3Y&search=james%20toney) Nice ! Cool Click ! ---
**Author:** ![Phil](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Phil](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/u/Phil)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380/20 "2006-07-13T20:28:08Z")
man i still think Peter’s gonna ko Toney and shut him up! this is a huge step up 4 Toney, sure Rahman can hit, but I think the difference is Peter can hit harder and he’s dirty and will be looking 4 those big shots all night, but he will hit him!! [Next page](https://forum.saddoboxing.com/t/toney-vs-peter-erupts/6380.md?page=2)